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World Coming To End, Film At 11

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Posted by:   bobo 2/6/2008 9:54 AM

Not since the early 1930's has it been so obvious that Wall Street is completely out of control, and has violated virtually every tenet and rule of modern civilized behavior, all in a quest for unprecedented bonuses, and as usual, driven by unbridled greed.

The latest revelations, coming out daily, are simply so jaw dropping as to be impossible to comprehend. I certainly don't need to comment on them - they stand on their own. Investment banks doing deals where they stuck school districts with toxic investments costing them millions to get out of, where the district received $75K and the bank made a million in fees - undisclosed, of course. And doing these hundreds and hundreds of times. Crookery and fraud, pretty blatant, as business plan.

Toxic paper sold throughout the financial system, now jeopardizing pension funds, and insurance companies, simultaneously shorted by the firm run by the current Treasury secretary - even as it sold the paper to its "best" clients. This is the guy running the Treasury. Paulsen. Not a peep from the press pointing out this, er, questionable ethical behavior.

The SEC again backing away from eliminating the market maker exemption, presumably waiting for the most badly abused companies to be put out of business before acting. Can't have Wall Street lose money and the average investor make it, huh? Or in this case, have Wall Street return a fraction of the money it stole via the sale of nonexistent stock. Nope. Gotta deliberate some more. This has gone from tragedy to farce. The stink of corruption is now so pervasive I don't think anyone even questions it anymore. It is simply a bent regulator doing the bidding of its Wall Street masters. Any doubts have been eliminated by the unprecedented stalling of this simple, basic and sensible change to an exemption that plainly violates the SEC's own rules in Section 36, and which directly damages investors.

I haven't had a lot of time to blog lately, but I can honestly say that if I did, I would be the online equivalent of hoarse. I've been screaming that the train is running off the tracks for years now, and as each dire prediction has come to fruition, my appetite for commenting on this has dwindled. A while ago I warned that anyone still in the market is a fool, as the system is hopelessly bent. Now that counsel appears prescient, as it is apparent that, well, the system is hopelessly bent.

As the OSTK suit rolls forward and discovery draws near, I can only hope that the revelations make it to the DOJ, and that there are still 12 honest men on the jury. I have a feeling that what it will show makes my assessment the tame version.

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Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By MarionPolk2000 on 2/6/2008 9:04 PM
You don't need "12 honest men" on a jury in a civil action. 7 to 9 honest people will usually do it.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By old duffer on 2/6/2008 9:04 PM
There is one internet news site that we may have a chance to get the word spread more on They have sent out many reports on the corruption of the Fed. One just yesterday with a claim the Fed is behind a current market take down effort. Cloud it be to cover all the naked shorts? Nah couldn't happen right?

Anyway flood this guy Joe Farah:www.worldnetdaily.com e-mail him address is jfarah@worldnetdaily.comI e-mailed him today. In the past he has responded to me so hit him up with the story!

Here is the Fed story from yesterday on Fed'd plan to drop the market:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=55601

Help in anyway you can! We may not win this one but if you have a spine you must keep trying. Better to die trying and fighting as opposed to rolling over like a sheep for slaughter.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By oldfeller on 2/20/2008 9:24 PM
Thanks for that link Sean, I`ve been looking everywhere for that. CNBC cut the live feed as soon as the words naked shorting came up, then restored it as soon as the subject changed.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Sean on 2/20/2008 9:25 PM
....................Check out Robert Shapiro, Former Under Secretary of Commerce for Economic Affairs in the U.S. talking about naked short selling.................Traces it to the DTCC and then on to the Banks and right to the owners of the FED as who's complicite...............Starts around the 16:30 mark~


http://broadband.bnn.ca/bnn/?id=2237&vid=32383

Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Sean on 2/20/2008 9:32 PM
Now the truth is finally told, look at how herb greenburg is back peddling!!LOL!!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=651897890&play=1
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By clearthinker on 2/6/2008 9:05 PM
Bobo take your pick......CNBC, Cramer, Greenberg, Kudlow, Bill Griffeth, Sue Herrrera, the SEC are ALL there to make sure that brokers sell stock, collect commissions, pay outrageous bonuses and protect the system they have set up in including the dTCC. It has been this way for years.

The media are 1000% compromised as are all of the advertisers who rely upon the Street to buy their yachts, Rolexes, Cigars private jets and the like.
we have a choice - I choose to speak out, but to not invest any money in this cesspool. I advise others to do the same. I plan on being in court when Patrick drills these guys a new orfice...

I wish you well

CT

It will take Byrne and the courts to break it if it is possible.....I don't hold out any hope. The best thing to do is invest in yourself and walk away from this cessspol
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By nabrum on 2/6/2008 9:06 PM
"As the OSTK suit rolls forward and discovery draws near, I can only hope that the revelations make it to the DOJ, and that there are still 12 honest men on the jury."

That's assuming some dimwit judge doesn't let it go to a jury because "it's too complex for the common person to comprehend" like some other dimwit (and/or paid off) judge did in another court case awhile ago.

PS: Good to see you're still around
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By mhelburn on 2/6/2008 9:06 PM
Gasparino believes that if Clinton gets in, John Mack is the favorite for Sec of the Treas...

Juice... like OJ
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Yup! on 2/6/2008 9:07 PM
Anyone else wonder if the current recession predictions are just a larger magnitude shorting by hedge funds of what we have already seen in OSTK, Novastar, etc?

The economic reports must be easy to manipulate and the media are already easy we know...

Is the economy really in dire straits or just fulfilling a very large short play?
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Rtway on 2/6/2008 9:08 PM
The very absence of the name of Pat Byrne and his conspiracies that were laughed at and made for journalistic fodder as well as the absence of your name BOBO or Bob Baloney give testimony that CNBC and the other so called news journalists are certainly nervous or just soiling their shorts.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By rmr on 2/6/2008 9:08 PM
we've missed you, bobo.

the following (author unknown) perfectly describes.


Once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced to the villagers
that he would buy monkeys for $10 each. The villagers, seeing that there
were many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them.

The man bought thousands at $10 but as supply started to diminish, the
villagers stopped their effort. The man then announced that he would now buy
at $20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching
monkeys again.

Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to
work on their farms. The offer was increased to $25 each but the supply of
monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let
alone catch it!

The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50. However, since he
had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy on
behalf of him.

In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers. "Look at all
these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them
to you at $35 and when the man returns from the city, you can sell them to
him for $50 each."

The villagers rounded up all their savings and bought all the monkeys. They
never saw the man nor his assistant again, only monkeys everywhere!

Now you have a better understanding of how the stock market works.


Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Sean on 2/7/2008 7:47 AM
People feast your eyes on this...

Ad Placed in Wash DC Newspaper

http://investigatethesec.com/drupal-5.5/files/CAPT%20Ad.pdf

Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By ginger on 2/7/2008 10:13 AM
Buffett: Bank woes are "poetic justice"
Thu Feb 7, 2008 10:00am
By Wojtek Dabrowski

TORONTO (Reuters) - The woes in the U.S. financial sector are "poetic justice" for bankers who designed and sold complex investments that have since gone sour, billionaire investor Warren Buffett said on Wednesday.

The head of the Berkshire Hathaway Inc (BRKa.N: Quote, Profile, Research) (BRKb.N: Quote, Profile, Research) group of companies also played down worries about a credit crunch by saying that recent interest rate cuts mean low-cost funds are readily available.

But he warned that the U.S. dollar will continue to slide unless the country can rein in its yawning trade deficit -- the "biggest factor" behind the decline. Still, he said, the U.S. economy will "do very well over time."

Buffett, one of the world's wealthiest people, appeared to see irony in the fact that many of the banks who marketed complex investments which have now crashed are bearing much of the fallout.

"It's sort of a little poetic justice, in that the people that brewed this toxic Kool-Aid found themselves drinking a lot of it in the end," he said.

Buffett, a legendary investor who has amassed a huge fortune through plays in a wide range of industries, has bet against the U.S. dollar in the past.

In 2005, Berkshire had made a $21.8 billion bet that the U.S. dollar would fall. It later unwound that successful position as it found other non-U.S. investments.

Buffett said on Wednesday in Toronto that the turmoil that has rocked the U.S. economy in recent months has imbued the markets with a healthy degree of caution, while the rate-cutting response from central bankers has ensured that cheap money remains available for borrowing.

I wouldn't quite call it a credit crunch. Funds are available," Buffett said during a question and answer session at a business event. "Money is available, and it's really quite cheap because of the lowering of rates that has taken place."

He added: "What has happened is a repricing of risk and an unavailability of what I might call 'dumb money,' of which there was plenty around a year ago."

Buffet was in Toronto for the Canadian launch of corporate-news firm Business Wire, which Berkshire bought in 2006.

Buffett tends to favor companies with relatively simple businesses, strong management, consistent earnings, good returns on equity, and little debt.

As of late last year, Berkshire's businesses employed about 220,000 people and the number is growing as the group continues to expand its portfolio of companies. The units generated a $10.27 billion profit on revenue of $90.2 billion from January to September.

($1=1.01 Canadian)

(Reporting by Wojtek Dabrowski; Editing by Rob Wilson)

http://www.reuters.com/article/innovationNews/idUSN0631767220080207?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0


Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By fc.... on 2/8/2008 10:13 AM
http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/05/sec-cmos-banking-biz-wall-cx_lm_0206sec.html?feed=rss_news

~snip

Aguirre has his own beef with the SEC. He was fired in 2005 after aggressively pursuing an insider trading case against Pequot Capital, the powerful New York hedge fund. Aguirre, who says he was fired after trying to interview current Morgan Stanley (nyse: MS - news - people ) Chief Executive John Mack in the matter, says the agency is too close to the industry it covers to be effective as a watch dog. A spokesman for the SEC wouldn't comment for this story.

~snip......

I don't understand why no one has lost life or limb over this facade......
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By rtway on 2/8/2008 10:14 AM
I would like to ask Mr. Buffet how he would feel if one of his companies had mutiple owners besides himself but no proof of ownership and these people got to vote on important decisions going forward. Not being a smart ass, just inquisitive.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Pete Stevenson on 2/8/2008 10:14 AM
Have you all seen this PR posted on the SEC site:

"SEC Chairman Cox Announces Creation of New Office, Appointment of Leaders, to Expedite Distribution of Billions to Injured Investors"

http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-12.htm

Sounds like this might be great news coming soon for NSS investors.
But I am not holding my breath based on past history.

Pete
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By oldfeller on 2/8/2008 10:15 AM
Speaking of the DOJ one can only stare in wonderment when some bureaucrat who apparently has no clue what he`s talking about can shave $5.5 billion off a blue chip stock in one day. I`m talking about CME. Yes let`s let the guys who don`t know how to settle trades go into the business of clearing commodities. That way nobody will ever have to worry about having a truckload of soybeans delivered to their driveway because they will be phantom soybeans which don`t take up much room.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By zock on 2/8/2008 10:15 AM
Check it out:
http://www.stopphantomshortselling.org/
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Sean on 2/14/2008 5:02 PM
I would love to see a blog on this..

The following PR by Overstock .com is a bombshell to Wallstreet!

The discovery in this case and the subsequent Overstock .com trial will IMO bring into focus just how badly many stocks, especially OTC/Pink Sheet stocks, have been manipulated by Wall Street, etc. over the past several years.


Overstock Applauds Trial Court's Ruling in Gradient Case; Gradient Defendant Loses Dash for Exit as Court Sets September 9 Trial Date
Tuesday February 12, 5:50 pm ET

Overstock eager to move to trial, believes it will expose widespread Wall Street corruption


SALT LAKE CITY, Feb. 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Overstock. com, Inc. (Nasdaq: OSTK - News) today announced that in Overstock. com et al. v. Gradient Analytics et al., California Marin Superior Court Judge Lynn O'Malley Taylor ruled against Gradient Defendant Matthew Kliber's bid to exit the case. In addition, Judge O'Malley has set the case for trial on September 9, 2008.

Jonathan Johnson, Overstock Senior Vice President of Legal said, "Once again, defendants' efforts to derail this case fall flat. In every instance the trial and appellate courts have ruled that Overstock has a 'reasonable probability' of prevailing on every claim, just as the California Supreme Court declined Defendants' Petition for Review of those decisions. They are out of running room -- and we now have a trial date set. It's time to bring their conduct into the light of day."

Whistleblowers who worked at Gradient have provided detailed declarations outlining a scheme by which various hedge funds participate in ordering, reviewing and editing Gradient reports on numerous target companies while they practice pre-publication trading ahead of these reports that they effectively ghost-write. The witnesses identify several current and former Gradient executives, including Kliber, as playing a role in this scheme. The whistleblower declarations are available at: http://www. overstock. com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=staticpopupfull&sta_id=11151

Overstock.com et al. v. Gradient Analytics et al. alleges that Kliber, Gradient and other defendants, including the Copper River Partners (formerly Rocker Partners) hedge fund, colluded to publish such "shill" reports about Overstock, making defamatory and false claims, in a manner that a California appellate court characterized as "carpet bombing." Overstock is suing for libel, unfair business practices and tortious interference. Kliber challenged the sufficiency of the Overstock complaint on several grounds, all of which Judge Taylor today rejected.

Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne said, "These broad-tossers have given us a two-and-a-half year cook's tour of the California appellate process. They engage in such legal posturing because they know this case will expose a widespread, illegal Wall Street practice that harms American companies and makes money at the expense of American investors. I look forward to the day when the scofflaws are no longer in a backroom seeing their orthodoxies supped by biddable regulators and tractable New York financial journalists, but are instead sitting in a California courtroom trying to rationalize their schemes to twelve citizens."

Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By bburrell on 2/13/2008 12:59 AM
Right on. When someone finally figures out that the major brokers packaging the mortgage credits continued to write fluffy, optimistic reports on said paper, all the while shorting into their own deals, heads will eventually roll.

I have repeatedly said the counterfeiting crisis is pandemic across all forms of securities.

A more subtle agenda is a blatantly socialist subornation of the right of individuals to control the last major hard asset since they put gold away, that being your homes.

The sheer criminality of this manufactured crisis boggles the mind of anyone with ethics. Ethics and Wall Street don't mix, particularly with the regulators in the morass up to wherever.

The skillful delays of investigative results insure virtually no one, particularly those who both need and deserve some quality time with Bubba in a real prison will ever have to worry about it. Then again, any big time criminals will simply roll into CI status to insure their invulnerability. Look at the list now: Gary Weiss, John Moran, the Elgindy cabal, John Edwards, Gary Walters, David Rocker, ad infinitum, ad nausea.

If you have any personal ethics, not perfect, but anything material, you are on the outside looking in here.

Unfortunately, the arrogance of these kinds of asses insures that some victim will ultimately take it out on their faces, or worse. The Trajedy: The victim will be punished out of all rational proportion, while the filth skates yet again.

The lawyers here have an interesting quandry: If there is a God, they have sold thier souls down a toilet. I don't know how these weasels sleep at night.

They like to taunt their victims. I hope, like the two schmucks the Tiger killed, that the moat separating them from their victims can be bridged easily.

Joe Kennedy Sr. can be proud of the SEC he built. What it was culturally when he built it, it is now again.

And where is a public copy of the GAO audit of the SEC we were all waiting to see?
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By mhelburn on 2/14/2008 5:03 PM
Why are individuals having to do all the work when we are paying the regulators? You saw what happened when Aquirre made waves at the SEC. There are a few elected officials who know and act. Blessings on Specter and Grassley.

Has Wall Street rewarded those who resigned the SEC after the GAO report came out? Where are they now? Linda still sits as head of enforcement and Chris is still issuing platitudes about the gold standard of enforcement.

What about those market maker exemptions that allow counterfeiting? Nothing done about them. They got rid of the uptick rule and look what has happened to Nazareth's volitility since.

The FDA is no better.. they actually are killing people with delays of more humanitarian drug treatments.

It is all about the juice. May they rot in hell. Pray Clinton doesn't get elected. John Mack is favored as her choice to be Sec of Treasonry. (not a typo)
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By bbhindyou on 2/14/2008 5:04 PM
I made reference quite a while back about wait til the mess with oversold morgages breaks if you think selling more stocks then actually exists is bad.

Wish I had been wrong.

What more do we have they can take?

One word.

Insurance.

Hope I'm wrong.
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Pete Stevenson on 2/14/2008 5:05 PM
YES. I saw this report...and there's more.

We know that this is but a ripple in the vast ocean of deception coming from the brokerages...and, we know this is building into a Tsunami...it's easy to see that the end is near...

Here's the article...there's more to come on this latest domino to fall...

UBS Won't Support Failing Auction-Rate Securities

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2008/02/ubs_wont_support_failing_aucti.html

Pete
Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By ginger on 2/14/2008 1:41 PM
ASX feeling naked flame
February 15, 2008

ASX Ltd's chief executive, Robert Elstone, felt the mood first-hand yesterday. The company produced a stellar result, only to have its shares sold.

In the increasingly complex and sophisticated market for financial products, the range of participants play their own games in the aftermath of the release of financial information. It is their positions that increasingly dictate the market value of a stock, rather than the company's profit performance.

The fact is that the fall in the value of Australian Stock Exchange had more to do with short-selling by hedge funds than the profit produced. The irony is that monitoring short-selling is the domain of the ASX - and clearly the rules are not sufficiently adequate to enable it to do this.

But this is the tip of the iceberg. The other big issue for the ASX and regulators with a role in financial markets is that of margin lending. A number of regulators have responsibilities in this area but regulation of both has fallen between the cracks.

The problems are ambiguous legislation, jurisdictional overlaps (or more correctly underlaps) and a new world where debt securities and equity securities are in a state of turmoil. Understandably, the cocktail tests the system - a system of which the ASX is the epicentre.

Elstone said in his address yesterday that while the sell-off in equities markets was primarily about fear caused by the melt-down in debt markets, the volatility was increased by short-selling and margin lending. As far as short-selling is concerned, the ASX rules require brokers to report short sales to it each day.

But the ASX yesterday admitted that short-selling was seriously under-reported. This is because the ASX only has the power to compel the brokers to do the reporting - it has no power to compel clients to report. So if the brokers' clients don't pass on the information, then it goes undetected.

Short-selling is when an investor takes the view that the stock price of company A is going to fall, and so sells the shares. If the price falls, the investor can then buy back the stock at a lower price, crystallising a profit. It's the same as buying low and selling high, but with the order reversed.

In order to execute this trade the investor must borrow shares in company A from someone else (since he doesn't actually own them, and so must get them from somewhere to settle the sell trade).

It's complex and can be manipulative, but it's legal and not of itself a problem.

The issue is what should be disclosed, and when.

The short sellers are generally hedge funds which interpret the rules liberally, to say the least - to the point that some hedge funds take the view that only "naked" short selling requires reporting.

A naked short sale is where the investor doesn't cover the risk by borrowing the shares, immediately, but waits until the last possible moment - that is settlement date, which, for the stock market, is three days later.

So when the hedge funds that dominate this activity are active in a stock, it can distort the immediate natural response to company news. And while it may be only last for a couple of days, that couple of days can mean big price movements in the market.

The influence of hedge funds has been increasing significantly over the past couple of years.

The ASX and the corporate regulator, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, are aware short trades are under-reported but don't appear to have become worried until now.

And then there is margin lending. It's simpler but potentially more sinister.

This is a loan security against listed stocks where the lender is able to call in the loan if falls in the share price mean the value of the security gets close to the value of the loan.

Regulating this is a can of worms across the jurisdictions of the ASX and the Reserve Bank.

As with short-selling. no one appeared too worried about it during the bull market. But the world changed a couple of months ago. And there is nothing like a bear market to test financial, regulatory and public relations stress. Now, ASIC is calling for power to regulate this $36 billion industry.

A high-profile debacle such as Allco Financial Group, where directors/principals are margin-borrowed against their shares, brings the practice and its dangers into sharp focus. The lender of this margin loan, a broker called Tricom, delayed the ASX's regular daily settlement process when it sold Tricom shares it "lent" to a hedge fund.

This revealed an unsightly rip in the ASX's tasks of regulation and settlement. It was a public relations nightmare that resulted in Elstone spending more time on defence yesterday than on achievements or outlook.

The issue is what should be disclosed, and when.

The short sellers are generally hedge funds which interpret the rules liberally, to say the least - to the point that some hedge funds take the view that only "naked" short selling requires reporting.

A naked short sale is where the investor doesn't cover the risk by borrowing the shares, immediately, but waits until the last possible moment - that is settlement date, which, for the stock market, is three days later.

So when the hedge funds that dominate this activity are active in a stock, it can distort the immediate natural response to company news. And while it may be only last for a couple of days, that couple of days can mean big price movements in the market.

The influence of hedge funds has been increasing significantly over the past couple of years.

The ASX and the corporate regulator, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission, are aware short trades are under-reported but don't appear to have become worried until now.

And then there is margin lending. It's simpler but potentially more sinister.

This is a loan security against listed stocks where the lender is able to call in the loan if falls in the share price mean the value of the security gets close to the value of the loan.

Regulating this is a can of worms across the jurisdictions of the ASX and the Reserve Bank.

As with short-selling, no one appeared too worried about it during the bull market. But the world changed a couple of months ago. And there is nothing like a bear market to test financial, regulatory and public relations stress. Now, ASIC is calling for power to regulate this $36 billion industry.

A high-profile debacle such as Allco Financial Group, where directors/principals are margin-borrowed against their shares, brings the practice and its dangers into sharp focus. The lender of this margin loan, a broker called Tricom, delayed the ASX's regular daily settlement process when it sold Tricom shares it "lent" to a hedge fund.

This revealed an unsightly rip in the ASX's tasks of regulation and settlement. It was a public relations nightmare that resulted in Elstone spending more time on defence yesterday than on achievements or outlook.

http://business.smh.com.au/asx-feeling-naked-flame/20080214-1sbt.html

Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By Sean on 2/14/2008 5:05 PM

Grassley on naked shorting...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=652216599&play=1

from the most recent hearings on market troubles.

takes a minute to load ......

Re: World Coming To End, Film At 11 By fc...... on 2/20/2008 9:21 PM
Bennett just needs to propose the abolishment of the DTCC. And of course its not suprising to see Cox thanking Bennett for explaining the "phenomenom" of NSS. Since when does the S.E.C. take NSS "very seriously?"

This guy is a shill at best. Maybe even a hack-job whore as bad as someone like Anne Coulter.

Unfortunately I don't believe a word that comes out of Cox's mouth.

Don't urinate on my head and tell me its rain because I'm crazy, not stupid.

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